Those are the kinds of roles you can really sink your teeth into. Characters with an edge. When you're playing someone who's sort of seedy, there's less limitation, there's so much space you can travel. There's room to move in.

In 'Hope Never Dies', the fictional Obama and Biden go up against drug traffickers, outlaw bikers, and other seedy opponents. They're forced to use skills they didn't know they had. Or, to put it another way, unlike Jordan Peele's Obama, this Obama doesn't need an anger translator.

I met my boyfriend a pro poker player at a tournament. He tried to dissuade me because it's a seedy gritty world. Listen I've played till 4 in the morning. I've played with a half million dollars on the table.

Obviously there's the seedy side of the strip club world and pole dancing. But pole dancing as an art form is really beautiful. It's been hyper-sexualized because it's associated with strippers but if you think about it just in terms of other kinds of dancing they're using an instrument to create these amazing dance forms.